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Post by Tails on Mar 1, 2012 17:54:14 GMT -5
it seems appropriate to wear garb conducive to that end. But off the field, I think that's where I would also twitch at seeing it. I'm not sure I see the distinction you are making.
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Post by Porthos on Mar 1, 2012 18:14:02 GMT -5
Underarmor is designed to help athletes/those-who-are-active. Yes, it keeps you warm/cool (whichever you need), but at the same time, I see UA's place as being on the field. Off the field (feast, socializing, drankin), I don't see the point of UA. Wear garb. Wear garb over it, if the UA is serving to keep you warm/cool (a thin cotton tunic isn't going to overheat you if you put it over it).
Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to go around, grousing over it. It doesn't really bother me *all* that much. I personally think its a reasonable compromise to "allow" UA on the field, and "expect" garb when off.
Granted, this all does change with temperature extremes. If its balls hot and you wear UA because it keeps you cool at night, alright, I can deal. If its freezing ass cold, and you want to keep living as a warmblooded creature, thats OK too. But, I don't think its all to much to want to see some attempt at garb.
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Post by gypsierose on Mar 2, 2012 0:18:05 GMT -5
I personally don't like seeing UA unless its about 90% covered. I really don't like when people where under armor with just a tabard. If you want to keep cool/warm, invest in a good linen tunic.
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Post by Peanut on Mar 2, 2012 1:35:09 GMT -5
Fact. A good under armor shirt that actually isnt jsut spandex costs as much as a good linen tunic. Plus, I've worn under armor a lot and yet I never stay as cool as when I've been wearing my linen. I've also never been as warm. So from the sport perspective, go with the best material:linen.
Also, tabard and ua looks like shit. Even if its matching scheme. It looks like we have wannabe power rangers running around.
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Post by Meat on Mar 5, 2012 10:07:09 GMT -5
Also, tabard and ua looks like shit. Even if its matching scheme. It looks like we have wannabe power rangers running around. Word.
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Post by Tails on Mar 5, 2012 11:39:16 GMT -5
Also, tabard and ua looks like shit. Even if its matching scheme. It looks like we have wannabe power rangers running around. These are gonna be garb accenters.
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Post by antoinette on Mar 5, 2012 19:19:31 GMT -5
There is this amazing thing, called flannel, if your cold, get a lovely linen cloak and line it with flannel...or a wool cloak lined with flannel...BAM your warm...
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Post by Peanut on Mar 6, 2012 1:51:36 GMT -5
These are gonna be garb accenters. How so? How much will be covered? Will i be able to tel lform 20 feet that thier UA? Ten?
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Post by Wren on Mar 6, 2012 11:32:57 GMT -5
There is this amazing thing, called flannel, if your cold, get a lovely linen cloak and line it with flannel...or a wool cloak lined with flannel...BAM your warm... My cold weather cloak (only cloak as of now) is a fleece-like but not fleece material...two layers. Worked quite well last Spring Wars.
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Post by Porthos on Mar 6, 2012 16:02:56 GMT -5
You know, I'm just putting this out there, but I think that there's too much polarization in this entire debate. It seems like everyone is more "NO UA" or "UA FOREVER" and not enough compromise on the issue.
Honestly, I think Tails has the right of it. He's wanting to incorporate UA into his garb. He's putting an effort into it, which is more than can be said for a lot of UA wearers. Is UA a substitute for garb? No. Is it treated as such? Oh yes.
UA is, for better or worse, going to be here to stay. I don't care if a WC vote bans it, its going to be out there just like blue jeans and a tabard is now. I'd rather it be incorporated in a manner that compliments garb and doesn't look like shit, than seeing it like a bad rash broke out over shitty garb.
We're knights in Nikes. Underarmor is just a piece of garb. Fighting it really is more a waste of time than anything else- why not encourage people to do what Tails wants to do?-Make UA look good with garb that works well with it. Not only does it accomplish something other than grumbling about it, but also doesn't make you come off like a garb purist in a game that is arguably moving out of LARP/Recreation/Reenactment territory and carving out a niche that (again, arguably) straddles a variety of worlds.
There just seems to be too much animosity going into these types of discussions.
Also, to be fair about linen, flannel, wool, and all of the fabrics that people toss around (myself included). They tend to run on the expensive side. Even if you can find it at a good price for the multiple yards of it that you need (cloaks are the biggest culprit here)-- there is an investment of time that must be made to make the garb. I'm a pretty big guy and I need more fabric. Tails isn't, but truth be told, Belegarth is a hobby. Fabric is not of a higher importance than food and rent.
I'm not a gifted sewer- garb takes me a while to make, let alone make well. Between the monetary cost of materials, and the cost in time, sometimes UA is just an alternative to it all. Investing not only the time and money in making UA-complimenting garb, but also buying the UA and working to make it better embodies the spirit of craftsmanship that is the foundation of making garb. I'd rather see 10 new people run around in UA than have those same 10 be turned away because making garb isn't feasible, or they just don't have the resources they need (skill, materials, time, whatever).
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Post by Sir Peregrine on Mar 6, 2012 16:24:05 GMT -5
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Post by Porthos on Mar 6, 2012 16:50:55 GMT -5
I question how durable it is. It looks great, but everyone's styles of fighting vary. Its amazing what UA can go through and come out intact on the other side.
The other bit too is that UA isn't strictly just any old fabric, it has other properties as well.
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Post by Peanut on Mar 6, 2012 22:28:01 GMT -5
I've used both under armor and linen tunics. I fight every week and (in my opinion) quite hard. Linen tunics hold up just as well as UA. The actually tend to get messed up less since their baggier and tend to pull less.
And didnt I say somewhere that Im ok with them as gap fillers between garb? But thats not I percieve being proposed here. I see it as advocating cool looking UA is garb. And I dont care how "futile" it is, Ill keep being against.
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Post by Tails on Mar 7, 2012 9:03:37 GMT -5
A)How much will be covered? B)Will i be able to tel lform 20 feet that thier UA? C) Ten? A) As much as possible. B) Yes, unless you are near-sighted C) Yes, unless you don't have eyes. It's not hard to spot underarmour, especially if you're looking for it. That's not what this is about for me. For me, this is a way to (again) accent my garb. I'm going through a garb overhaul of sorts, and this is something I want to be a part of it because I appreciate this aspect about the Belegarth community. I'm not going to be the trud with UA and a tabard, but you're gonna know that I'm wearing it.
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Post by Sir Peregrine on Mar 7, 2012 10:47:51 GMT -5
as long as the rest of the garb is good it does not bother me.
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